The Narrow Mind Post Debate Radio Interview Feedback
Hey Dan - heard you and your friend on Narrow Mind, It is
interesting how quickly Calvinists get angry when you start pointing
out what the Bible actually says to them. Ya'll interacted in a very
kind, reasonable spirit - excellent. You ran circles around them the
whole time. If you don't know about it already, you may be interested
in this: trinities.org/blog
You gents know the Bible so well, that I'd be priviledged to have your comments occasionally.
If
you read carefully, you'll see that this is no ordinary "trinitarian"
site. You may also benefit from some of my papers, referenced here: http://filosofer.googlepages.com/dt.html
I'm
not a "biblical unitarian", but I'm inclined to think that is a
biblically defensible position. I have noticed that crucial planks of
their case are philosophical (thus, debatable), and not obviously
biblical.
Also, I'm a house church guy. I've found these guys to have a lot of integrity: http://www.ntrf.org/
As
a Christian philosopher, I can tell you with the utmost seriousness:
watch out for some of those "emergent" types - there's a lot of crap
philosophy they're peddling. But most of it's just carefully calculated
hipness & carefully tuned attitude. No movement like that can last
(and also bring about good).
God bless,
DaleFredonia, NY
Hey Dan, The link is the one that did it. We had a very enjoyable evening in
listening to your radio debate. I had no idea it would go on for so
long! It was a real marathon.
Having discussed it we both agree that you delivered a masterclass
in unitarian apologetics. You came across as totally cool and confident
in what you believe, yet humble at the same time.
You and Patrick showed a complete mastery of the material and fielded all the questions very assertively and thoroughly.
The Dj just seemed to want to bring up the most obscure and weird
reasons for believing in the Trinity yet seemed to fail to grasp what
you were saying about ontology. He was so off the wall that a couple of
times you guys just seemed totally lost for words, like as if you were
silently saying "what the... ? ... ".
It amazed me that after all that debating it came down to the fact
that you hadn't been saved because if you had, the spirit of God would
have led you to agree with him. Circular reasoning or what?!? Worse
still, that the reason why you were lost is that God had blinded your
minds. So now it's God's fault that you're obstinate heretics- you're
so blinded you even believe that God wants everyone to be saved.
Outrageous.
I also didn't like the way he made a couple of points after you were
no longer on line, giving you no chance to respond. If just wasn't very
sporting of him.
When all's said and done, I don't think you could have done any
better than you did, even if you'd been given the chance to rehearse
the questions and answers beforehand. You made me and Cel so proud to
be unitarians. I'm going to keep this audio on file for reference.
Keep the faith my brother, please send my warmest regards to Patrick as well,
Alex
London, UK
Hey Dan, I have just been listening
to the debate. Grrrrrrrr! Well, it seems we have a different God and Religion since we
aren't on the same page and view (our)
Jesus through the clouded and distorted
lens as they! Why am I not surprised? Frankly
Dan, I have a lot to say about "little Tin Gods such as him in my book.
I think you and Patrick did very well. You stuck to the
scriptures, and their parallel verses to clarify,
substantiate and validate your point. He (Gene)
and the (others) do what all Trinitarians do,
and that is dance around the issue - a little spin here, a twist
there etc. Their case is generally shallow, and
must rely upon "Inference,
distortions, misinterpretations and
misrepresentation of "proof text" to
validate their argument. Yes, it appears
at times they DO have some valid points, but upon closer scrunity,
they can be unraveled. You'll held you own just fine!
I really enjoyed listening to
the debate and have listened to it twice, trying to absorb how
"cleverly" they do thier little Trinitarian dance. They really go for the "doubting Thomas," and" Emmanuel"
verses EVERY time!! Those two and the "Father and I
are One, are the perennially overused and abused
scriptures. Truth is, that is the sum total "proof
text" that most Trinitrians are aware, or at least
that has been my experience with my fellow brethren in Chruch.
I liked your website, very impressive!. The
Graphics are great and I will be praying that it will be
very successful. I haven't had a chance to read all the material, but will be getting to it this week. I
have had a bad rash that won't go away, and my husband has a pinched nerve and can't
walk. Sooooo, haven't had enouch time to really go
over everything, but promise to check it out this
week.
You know Dan, I could not handle myself well in a
debate. I think I would ...."know I would" loose my temper! And
that would not be a good Thing!!
I gotta tell you Dan, after listening to the debate, I'm not sure people
like Gene and the others could or would ever change their viewpoint. They are the "ones"
blinded! Unfortunately they represent the majority! They're
a tough, judgmental bunch and very unyielding.
I wish I could say I feel uplifted, by the
debate, but the truth is this is so disheartening, it makes me wonder
why I am working so hard to do this book, it
feels like an exercie in futility, and it's all I can
do to keep the faith. Did you ever feel like
that??? But I'm going to press on!! You , Patrick,
Anthony, the authors of One God and One Lord, TruthorTradition.com
keep me going! And let's face it Dan, the old adage "where there's smoke
there's fire" ......well, if this 1700 year old
doctrine was grounded, and solidified in truth and had such a
strong foundation.... why is it still smoltering?? Gotta be
something wrong somewhere!!! That fact alone should give one
(with a thinking brain) pause.
Well again Dan, I really enjoyed the debate
and will be listening to it repeatedly. It will also aid me in
knowing
from which direction my opponets will
be coming from. You and Patrick held you own, and are to be
applauded.
I am not as well versed in the Greek or
Hebrew or have the biblical expertise as you,
but I have learned enough to know you'll did
very
well, and I was familar with the scriptures you used to
substantiate your argument. Anthony's book has been worth it's weight
in gold, and has been so instrumental in my
acquiring the knowledge I have since researching the
Trinty.
God Bless and have a nice day, and KEEP up the
wonderful work.
Priscilla
